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Missing Variation Selectors #447

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MAZ06 opened this issue Jan 31, 2025 · 18 comments
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Missing Variation Selectors #447

MAZ06 opened this issue Jan 31, 2025 · 18 comments

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@MAZ06
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MAZ06 commented Jan 31, 2025

Shouldn't all emojis have the ability to select VS15 or VS16 in addition to just normal "copy"? Only a few characters have anything like this. For example U+00A9 has +VS16, but a simple emoji like U+1F600 only has "copy." No VS15 OR VS16 to choose from.

I think all emojis should have "copy," "VS15," and "VS16."

@Mercury13
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Because of local menu? If default character is graphic, there’s VS15 in local menu. And VS16, if default character is text.

@MAZ06
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MAZ06 commented Feb 3, 2025

Emojis do not have VS15. Example:
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All emojis (and symbols with graphic counterparts, ie © and ®) should have "copy," "VS15," and "VS16." There are some uses where the specific variation selector is important rather than only "copy."

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Recently I have made local menu.
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@Mercury13
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I did not put VS15 to main pane because of confusion. What to do, IDK.

@MAZ06
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MAZ06 commented Feb 3, 2025

Found a bug! Local menu does not work in the Library! No VS15 option there!

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MAZ06 commented Feb 3, 2025

I did not put VS15 to main pane because of confusion. What to do, IDK.

I don't think it's confusing to put VS15 and VS16 into the main pane.

@Mercury13
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There’s no VS15/VS16 option in the Library. This is not a bug, it’s an oversight.
I did not even think that such a thing is needed.

@MAZ06
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MAZ06 commented Feb 3, 2025

If it's needed in the Blocks, then it's also needed in the Library.

@Mercury13
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I made for now: copy+VS15 is always visible (though will surely work for old characters like 26BD ⚽︎ only), and copy+VS16 for VS16 emoji only.

@Mercury13
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Made VS15 for ALL emoji.
Left VS16 the same. OK?

@Mercury13
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With Library — that’s not simple from user’s POV: if emoji is XXX+VS16, then Copy and Copy+VS16 will be the same.
Copy is always the most important menu item.

@Mercury13
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Maybe, someday I’ll add local menu to composition pane.

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Mercury13 commented Feb 7, 2025

I’ve been at the hospital recently (mother is OK, don’t worry), and lifts were far from good. I recollected an argument on the Internet.

High-rise buildings (10+ floors), by building code, should have two lifts, passenger and cargo-passenger. Sometimes people carry e.g. bike, and small lift is not an option.
A: If we had two buttons: call a small lift or a big lift.
B: That’s thinking of a C student. User’s needs are: call big lift, and call ANY lift. Otherwise, if you need any lift, you’ll call both, even lengthening lines.

That is UX, and I reluctantly consider your suggestion.

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Well, what should I do now?

@MAZ06
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MAZ06 commented Feb 13, 2025

I still think all emojis should have "copy," "VS15," and "VS16." Including in the Library.

@Mercury13
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Library is a char+VS16. Then copy and copy+VS16 do the same.

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MAZ06 commented Feb 14, 2025

What is VS16 used for then if copy+VS16 is the same as copy?

Library does not give me a VS16 option...

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Mercury13 commented Feb 14, 2025

What is VS16 used for then if copy+VS16 is the same as copy?

Copy+VS16 works with single characters only.
Copy does a different thing (copies just a character).
Button “Copy+VS16” appears.
Is it enough?

Library does not give me a VS16 option...

That’s why it does not give. I cannot invent a simple and working system.

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