[joy-ui] Release Cycle

[jd-carroll]

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There have been 14 @mui/material releases since the last @mui/joy@5.0.0-beta.48 release. Obviously they are different release trains, so I'm not expecting 14 @mui/joy releases.

However, considering that it has been close to 4months since the last release and there have been major changes (i.e. @mui/system@6.0.0 to joy's underlying dependencies, I'm left wondering what the status of joy is... ?

Hoping that it is not abandoned, will there be a release soon? (Is there an issue or tracker I can follow to monitor / contribute progress towards that?)

If it is abandoned, any guidance on replacement / migration steps?

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[siriwatknp]

Thanks for reporting the issue! Joy UI development is temporarily on hold as the maintainers focus on the next two major releases of Material UI

[viktorblondal]

It would be a shame if this project didn't get ongoing support. Such a great project! ❤️

When starting a new project from scratch, we recommend Material UI over Joy UI because we can guarantee ongoing support.

[Studio384]

Thanks for reporting the issue! Joy UI development is temporarily on hold as the maintainers focus on the next two major releases of Material UI

This is the same thing that was said almost exactly a year ago now and since then MUI v6 has been released. In that same blog post we also were told we'd get an update in 2024 Q2 but that never happened as far as I'm aware. Will that be talked about in the upcoming announcement about MUI v7 and v8?

[EfstathiadisD]

Yeah. I agree! Said it before! V6 was needed but Joy UI is an excellent product! It needs a major release with more than just React 19 Support!

That should be in minor! We need some fixes and above all else a clear roadmap for this package!

I was happy to give the benefit of the doubt to the team but you pushed back almost a Year now your own words!

It's not good! We need a roadmap, and a stable release with some bug fixes!

This is an excellent product and IMHO it should have taken prio over MUI but you know better.

Still it's not professional to say we will look at it in 6 Months 3 times in a row!

It's been over a Year now and the way y talk 2025 will pass and still nothing. Disappointed!

[Westo48]

This project simply seems to be abandoned outside of React support which is sad because everywhere I see people talk about it they like Joy UI more than MUI from a design perspective.

[atillaaliyev]

This uncertainty is not good. I have designed new library based on Mui/Joy for all developers that there are over 45+ components. Moreover, the company will use this library for whole projects so I'm worried. Maybe, Joy UI could become a theme of Material UI but the theme isn't the only problem. For instance, how will you manage props of Dialog component? There are differences between Joy and Mui. I feel like I made a mistake because of choosing Joy.

[EfstathiadisD]

I am gonna be honest. I understand how people feel. We just switched to Joy a few Months back.

I don't regret it. Time will tell. The theme is excellent. MUI would require me so much custom work to get what I need.

Joy theme is pure work of art! The component structure is better and the performance as well.

I think the team made a mistake tech wise. Brand value of MUI is immense but they could port JoyUI theming capabilities and branded it as MUI for MUI v6.

They bet on MUI which cost them 1.5 Years and still no MD3 (Don't are personally) and left such a capable lib behind!

Hope JoyUI gets some love soon. I would be happy to support of few fixes and improvements but I see even PR review don't get any support or review get rubbed off. That's just bad attitude.

I think they are betting big in MUI but just like NextJS it is going to take double the time they envisioned and now feel they can't back out.