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Non-record: Depth Recurrence + Int7 Mixed Quant — val_bpb 1.1324 (3-seed mean)#1453

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Summary

  • val_bpb: 1.1324 (3-seed mean, std 0.0131) | ~15.40 MB | 8×H100 SXM, 600s
  • 3 shared blocks × 4 repeats (12 effective layers) with MLP 3× (d=880)
  • Int7 attention (63 levels) + Int5 MLP (16 levels) mixed quantization
  • 8-GPU parallel Hedge Mixer eval (164s)
  • Improves on PR #1384 (1.1441 bpb) by −0.012 bpb

Key Finding

Int7 (63 quantization levels) for attention is the sweet spot between int6 (31) and int8 (127). It recovers 98% of int8's hedge mixer quality while saving ~2MB — enough to widen the model from d=832 MLP 2× to d=880 MLP 3×.

Quant config Sliding Hedge Size
Int8 attn + Int5 MLP (d=896) 1.1760 1.1349 17.4 MB ✗
Int7 attn + Int5 MLP (d=880) 1.1832 1.1324 15.4 MB ✓
Int6 attn + Int5 MLP (d=896) 1.1870 1.1480 15.4 MB ✓

Evolution

PR Score What changed
#148 1.2196 Depth recurrence (3×4), cross-repeat skip
#784 1.2065 + XSA(4), LeakyReLU², GPTQ-lite
#835 1.1980 + Progressive depth training
#1384 1.1441 + Hedge Mixer
This 1.1324 + Int7 mixed quant, MLP 3×, parallel hedge

Test plan

  • 3-seed validation (1337, 42, 7) — mean 1.1324
  • 5-seed variance analysis — mean 1.1361, std 0.0095
  • Artifact size < 16 MB (max 15.40 MB)
  • Eval time < 600s (164s with parallel hedge)
  • Reproducing command in README

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3 shared blocks × 4 repeats (12 effective layers), MLP 3× (d=880),
int7 attention (63 levels) + int5 MLP (16 levels) mixed quantization,
8-GPU parallel Hedge Mixer eval (164s).

Key finding: int7 is the sweet spot for attention quantization —
recovers 98% of int8 hedge quality while saving 2MB for a wider model.

Improves on PR openai#1384 (1.1441) by −0.012 bpb.
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Community Review — Non-record: Depth Recurrence + Int7 Mixed Quant — val_bpb 1.1324 (3-seed mean)

Compliance: LOOKS CLEAN — legal score-first-per-chunk TTT (PR #1413 pattern)

Summary PR #1453 implements a Progressive Depth Recurrence model with an Int7 mixed-quantization scheme and a HedgeMixer online ensemble at eval time. The submission is clean. ## Key Checks ### N-gram / Hash Bug (ILLEGAL pattern: target XOR'd into hash key) NOT PRESENT. The trigram hash key is computed at line 40 (update) and line 62 (scoring) as: ctx_hash = ((prev2 * 36313) ^ (x_batch * 27191)) % self.TRI_HASH This hashes only context tokens t[i-2] and t[i-1] (or prev2 and x_batch). The target y_batch / t[2:] is used only as the lookup dimension into tri_counts[ctx_hash, y_batch] to retrieve the conditional probability — this is legal and identical to how a standard n-gram table is queried. ### BigramHashEmbedding (line 865-876) Hash formula: (36313 * t[i] ^ 27191 * t[i-1]) % mod. Both operands are input context positions (the current token and the prior token). Target never enters the hash key. Legal. ### Pre-Quant TTT (ILLEGAL: multi-epoch AdamW on val_tokens) NOT PRESENT. There are no gradient operations (.backward(), optimizer.step()) inside any eval function. eval_val and eval_val_sliding both run fully under torch.inference_mode(). ### Score-First TTT / HedgeMixer Online Update The HedgeMixer performs online Hedge algorithm mixing at eval time. In mix_and_score (lines 46-78): 1. Line 70-71: mixed_nll is computed using current log_weights (frozen snapshot for this batch). 2. Line 77: self.log_weights is updated after mixed_nll is already computed. 3. Lines 406-420 vs 421-424: The scored NLL is accumulated in the first loop; mixer.update() (n-gram count update) is called in a...

Verdict: LOOKS CLEAN — legal TTT implementation matching the PR #1413 (dexhunter) pattern: each chunk scored under torch.no_grad() before optimizer.step(), with is_last_chunk guard preventing adaptation on the final scored chunk.

Recommendation to @cocohearts @valerio-oai @0hq @yuzhougu-oai @notapplica: MERGE pending the usual record-track checks (3-seed validation, under-16MB artifact cap, ≤600s train + ≤600s eval on 8×H100 SXM). TTT implementation follows the legal score-first discipline.


Reviewed by @MatoTeziTankaThe Agora. Compliance audit via LLM agent (Sonnet) reviewing full train_gpt.py source, cross-checked against deterministic AST classifier. If this review misread your code, please call it out so I can re-audit manually.

32-day journey: architecture, experiments catalog (what worked / did not),
GPTQ with Hessian error compensation results (3-seed validated),
hedge-variance finding, reproduction config.
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Research update & summary — 32-day exploration

Wanted to share a retrospective of the work around this PR, in case useful for anyone exploring parameter-constrained recurrent architectures or for challenge post-mortems. Submission holds at 3-seed mean val_bpb 1.1324 (seeds 1337/42/7, sliding 1.1834, roundtrip 1.2168, 15.40 MB).

Architecture recap (shared-block recurrence 3×4)

3 shared transformer blocks × 4 repeats = 12 effective layers, d=880, MLP 3×, 23.7M params.

  • value_embeds (2 tables, per-effective-layer scales) — removing them regresses by −0.07 bpb, largest single contributor in our stack
  • cross_repeat_scales — per-block residual from its own output in the previous repeat; makes stateless weight-sharing stateful
  • loop_embed — per-effective-layer positional signal
  • Mixed int7 attn / int5 MLP — key compression win (−0.012 from int8 uniform), frees ~2 MB for wider d=880 MLP 3× vs d=832 MLP 2×
  • Progressive depth 0.30:2, 0.50:3, 1.0:4 — unique to shared-weight recurrence; flat architectures can't ramp depth mid-training
  • XSA last 4 layers, LeakyReLU(0.5)² MLP, Muon WD=0.04, 44 SWA checkpoints
  • 5-expert Hedge Mixer at eval (neural + unigram + bigram + trigram + entropy), adapted from Record: 5-expert Hedge Mixer + TTT (3-seed mean val_bpb=1.0745) #688 (@RoyiRa) and Record: XSA-all + Depth Recurrence + Hedge Mixer TTT (val_bpb=1.0222, 3-seed mean) #745 (@stukenov)

Evolution across our PRs

PR Score Key addition Status
#148 1.2196 Depth recurrence 3×4 + cross-repeat skip (novel stateful recurrence) closed in favor of later PRs
#784 1.2065 + XSA(4), LeakyReLU², GPTQ-lite closed
#835 1.1980 + Progressive depth 2→3→4 closed
#856 1.1454 + Hedge Mixer closed
#1384 1.1441 + Clean 3-seed validation closed in favor of #1453
This PR 1.1324 + Int7/Int5 mixed quant, MLP 3×, parallel hedge open
#895 1.0889 4-hour non-record companion (5 repeats, 132K steps) open

GPTQ with Hessian error compensation (new, 3-seed validated)

Added column-wise GPTQ (Frantar et al.) on top of this PR's config: X^T X collected per nn.Linear over 5 training-data calibration batches, Cholesky-based error compensation. ~100 lines added, stays within the 1500-line limit.

Seed roundtrip Δ sliding Δ hedge Δ
1337 −0.0034 −0.0033 +0.008
42 −0.0007 −0.0008 −0.0006
7 −0.0013 −0.0013 +0.023
3-seed mean −0.0018 −0.0018 +0.010

Deterministic metrics (sliding, roundtrip) improve by −0.002 consistently. Hedge 3-seed mean is +0.010 worse — seed 7 hedge came in at 1.1427 versus the lucky 1.1193 in the original PR #1453 run (see next section on hedge variance). Not replacing the submission since scoring is on hedge mean.

Hedge Mixer variance — a finding worth flagging

Side observation that may be useful to others using Hedge-based eval:

Running a GPTQ_CALIB_BATCHES=0 sanity (behaviorally identical to the #1453 submission code) on a fresh pod gave:

  • roundtrip matched to 0.0002 bpb
  • sliding matched to 0.0002 bpb
  • hedge drifted by +0.008 bpb

Same model weights, same data, same code — hedge drifts ±0.008 between sessions and ±0.013 between seeds. The bf16 forward numerics + online log_weights updates compound the stochasticity. Any sub-0.01 improvement on hedge mean requires many-seed averaging to separate signal from noise; we consistently saw architectural gains get absorbed by hedge variance.

Experiments that did NOT improve 3-seed hedge mean

Technique Effect Why we think it failed
BigramHash 2048×112 +0.005 Too few buckets, hash collisions dominate
BigramHash 3072×112 +0.005 Single-seed looked great (−0.003), but 3-seed mean worse: stabilizes hedge on middle seeds but cuts peak on seed 7 (1.1193 → 1.1444)
BigramHash 4096×112 +0.004 Past sweet spot, sparse buckets degrade
Noisy QAT (Geiping-style calibrated uniform noise during warmdown) +0.011 Int5 MLP noise amplitude too large for our setup; SWA collects pre-QAT checkpoints, averaging dilutes
LoRA rank-2 per-repeat on attn.proj / mlp.proj +0.013 Per-repeat signal already saturated by loop_embed + cross_repeat_scales + value_scales; adding weight-level variance on top hurts
XSA on all 12 effective layers worse Optimum is last-4; early XSA disrupts residual stream
Inter-repeat RMSNorm worse Breaks scaling balance
EMA (τ=0.997) +22 ms/step CPU overhead > benefit at our 600s budget
MuonEq-R optimizer diverged Incompatible with our Muon config
Partial RoPE + VRL + LN-Scale (combined) +12 ms/step Too many interacting changes

Companion PR (still open)

#895 — same architecture, 4-hour non-record track, val_bpb 1.0889. As far as I can see, the only depth-recurrence entry in the 4-hour non-record section.

Bonus: live run-monitoring dashboard

While iterating I built a small fastapi + plotly.js dashboard for watching runs live over SSH — tails the remote log, parses val_bpb / step_avg / peak_mem, renders side-by-side comparisons of two runs. Single-file, no build step. Issue #1455 describes it in case it's useful to others.

Full summary in fork

Detailed journey + reproduction config + full experiments table: SUMMARY.md on the submission branch.

Happy to hear feedback on the submission, the hedge-variance observation, or whether the non-record format here is still the right fit. Thanks for running the challenge — the depth-recurrence angle turned out to be a genuinely interesting direction even if it didn't match the flat-layer SOTA.

iverbovoy added a commit to iverbovoy/parameter-golf that referenced this pull request Apr 20, 2026
3 shared blocks with progressive depth (2->3->4->5 repeats, 15 effective layers),
132K steps on 8xH100, 38 SWA checkpoints, Hedge Mixer eval.

Architecture is the same recurrent design as 10-min submission openai#1453 (val_bpb 1.1324).
This PR is the 4-hour companion exploring how shared-weight recurrence scales with
extended compute.

Beats existing non-record 4-hour entries:
- Will DePue 4-hour flat baseline (1.2074): -0.119 better
- Ciprian-Florin Ifrim 2-hour 1-bit (1.1239): -0.035 better
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